Well, I should probably leave this site.
Part of me changing is trying to be nice...
You're making it very hard, I'm not gonna lie.
But, I will say this: you are gonna be a very sad, lonely, bitter old man.
You have no idea who I am or who he is.
Just because you were a jerk when you were a teenager (& still are) doesn't mean he is.
You just want to think everyone is as terrible as you.
Well, they aren't. Sorry.


Thx a ton to those who helped.
I've made my decision not to.
It'll be a great test of our faith in God & our relationship.
You really helped me be sure of my answer. C:

[quote=votremerexx;9195]byebye...
so?...

too bad...there is no way i would ever sit here and not say the truth because some little "princess" is so spoiled she thinks she is more worthy than she is...

Worng, i am happily married with two beautiful kids. So i am neither sad or lonely and bitter is fine by me....


Irrelevent and desperation to try and make yourself look more mature than you have already shown us you are...

Knowing you or him is not necessary. You have told us all we need to know and shown yourself selfish, nasty, spoiled and wicked...not to mention vulgar and lustful, calling it love just to satisfy your own evil wantonness...
do not be so sure there 'little girl'. You have not lived long enough yet to preach and your words show it....

if you wish to slut yourself go for it...but if you think for one moment i will not speak honestly and let some young man ruin his life without saying you are trash for allowing it, you are wrong...


you are welcomed...but i do not care what you do and am not worried about you...it is the young man's life i am concerned with...

little huzzies like yourself have everyone else in the world to pat you back and lie to you telling you you can do no wrong because you are a princess...

I think you are spoiled, silly, ignorant and childish...

grow up...then get laid, not the other way around..

You are very wise my Sister.

God bless you and yours, and do come back and say hello and let us know how God is working in your life.

Love brother in Christ Rodger

wrong thread!


john.

Votremerex, Many years ago I faced this problem when I got saved. We even became engaged. The engagement was broken off by my then girl friend. Hormones rage at your age as they did when we were young. Oh and don't leave the site there is much on it that you could find interesting. Return to your christian roots, find useful things to do and try to enjoy life, living. Dave.

Dear Votremerexx

There are two things I would like you to take note off.

The first one is that those of age know now that they were thinking more or less the same way you do. Our brain develops ability to predict consequences of our actions at 25.

So you have full idea of what you might really put yourselves into for life.

The second one is that the current teaching of marriage has been developed by man to allow him status and control of people.

God has created man and out of his body created a helper and supporter, a woman. A man shall become one flesh with woman again for life. There is no divorce, second marriage or anything of that sort before God.

There is not such term as sin of sex before marriage. Let me quote from the Bible:

1Co 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Fornication - porneia - From G4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively idolatry: - fornication.

4203 porneuo - From G4204; to act the harlot, that is, (literally) indulge unlawful lust (of either sex), or (figuratively) practise idolatry: - commit (fornication).

4204 - porne - a strumpet; figuratively an idolater: - harlot, *****.

So many have sex with multiple partners calling it married again, unaware that they live life in the worst sin before God.

God bless

I did not know that any one sin was worse than another. Also even adults that get married are not immune from divorce. I say you might as well take advantage of you high sex drive while you are young. The bible says to enjoy the wife of your youth because you can go at it like twice a day and fill her mouth becasue it wont be like that forever (just make sure you dont get pregnant because the ability to raise a kid is totally divorced from wheather you are married or not despite what the church says). Divorce was permitted in duet 24 and is still permitted, it is not permitted on the drop of a hat but is permited for reasons other than cheating if you actually look at the definition of unfaithfulness and compare it to what was allowed in old testimate times.

IMO Fruit's response was measured and truthful. In the United States, men are seen merely as a checkbook for the whims of their female accuaintanances and mates. There is little or no respect for their position either as a counterpart in a lengthy relationship or as a man.

The young fellow you have lured into your web cannot find his way in the world to adequately provide for himself and his future family if you persist in your selfish desire to have him.

You steadfastly refuse to consider any of the godly and gentle advice which is given to you in these pages. Go exercise, take a cold shower and find a job, or educate yourself so that you may provide more to the community than a couple of babies.

If you truly love your young man you will keep you pants on and allow him to keep his zipper up. Such discretion will reap benefits for you both in later life.

Votremerexx: I can only tell you the truth, and what the word of God says so here it goes. Weather you are of age or not, does matter to God. Sex without marriage is sin, and if you are doing this stop it now its called fornication. I would tell you go to God in prayer on this and let Him tell you what to do. If a person only love you because of sex they really didn't love you from the start. Love is not all about sex read these words from God. 1st Corinthians 6:9,10....Matthew 15:19....Jhon 8:11....1st. Corinthians 7:3-7 Read this one over and over Ecclesiastes 9:9....Don't be the kind of person that only wants to hear what you want to hear. But hear what God is saying to you in his words, wisdom come from the word of God. I say this to you in love and as a Christian, bless you my child we will pray for you always....

Probably no help at all, but here goes.

Johnny got a temporary job between his Junior and Senior years of high school. His boss, Mr. Nelson, liked his approach to work so well that he offered Johnny a permanent position if he would work the next summer as an "evaluation" time, to which Johnny agreed. He was hired at the end of the summer, after graduation.

One day during the following year, Johnny failed to show up for work, after having established a perfect work record, both attendance and accomplishment, so when the boss was made aware of it, he began making phone enquiries on Johnny's behalf.

A little after 10:00 in the morning, Johnny sauntered into the office with a sheepish grin on his face. "Hi, Mr. Nelson, You're not gonna believe what happened to me this morning. I started to work, and my car kept taking me to the beach, so I finally gave in until it released me to come to work."

After he stopped laughint, Mr. Nelson fired Johnny.

Why?

Because both Mr. Nelson and Johnny knew that the "car" Johnny referenced was simply a means of transportation sufficient to get Johnny to whatever places he chose to go. They both also knew who was really in charge of Johnny's transportation, and it was NOT the car who was in charge.

Remember in school when the teacher called your name? You raised your hand?
But everyone knows that hand is not YOU, it is YOUR hand. In other words the hand is not the whole. The real YOU was the responsible one who caused that hand to raise.

So also, the car was not Johnny. It was just transportation to get him where he wanted to be.

Your hand is part of your body, and your body is just your transportation to get the real you where ever you want to be.

Just as your car has needs, so also does your body.

Car gets dirty, wash it.

Body gets dirty, bathe it.

Car gets hungry, put gas into the tank.

Body gets hungry, feed it.

Car feels drawn to other means of transportation, go for a drive in traffic.

Body feels need for interaction with other bodies, have party or sports event.

The point being, who is going to be incharge of your decision making process, YOU or your transportation?

Was it Johnny, or his car?

YOU or YOUR BODY?

Who will be responsible for the decisions and the actions resulting from those decisions at the judgment?