Isaiah 45:7 (King James Version)




7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.


Doe's God use evil to make good?


Joseph and Job were a good example of how God uses evil to mature a person in the Kindom of God.

Not exactly but God uses the evil for the good of His people. However the verse you are quoting is poorly translated. Calamity would have been a better word then evil for instance. When God says He creates evil he is talking about disaster, trouble, turmoil etc., not evil in the sense of evil creatures or evil deeds. Everything God creates is good.

We had a debate on this in my Yahoo group and after some research I had to concede that it was poorly translated and had to change my position to the one I just expressed to you.

Rick, Rodger, Is it OK to break into the conversation about the 3rd Heaven. I was always taught that the 1st H is the atmospheric H, the air we breath and up a bit, presumably well above Everest. The 2nd H. Is the starlic, space in other words, and the third Heaven is the Heaven of Heavens where God lives. Dave.

Hi Dave,


I heard that explaination before. It was a long time ago and I didn`t think of it at the time Rodger brought it up. That is possibly correct. I don`t think we have any scripture conformation of it but I believe that is a valid theory.

How about I give you another RATE.
What if the creation was "Plural" when God said "Let us make Man"?
Then He creates Adam in the garden to be the King of men. In the garden he is taught everything there is to be a King. The trees in the garden were teachers according to the scripture and they were there to teach Adam. Fruit in scripture relates to teachings. Eve jumped the gun on teachings that were learned out of sequence and enticing Adam to partake of those teachings. Adam was tossed out of the Palace from where he was to rule from and into the common human population. Through the fall of his leadership he took all men down with him as their king only to be restored by the man Jesus the second Adam Gods Son the new King of mankind.
Now this is a good Rate. Do I have any buyers? Going once! Going twice!

__________________
Russell
Acts 28:31 KJV) "Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ," with all confidence, ....

Healing those hurt by the church

Slight problem Bro! Animals also got the "Breath of Life" and are also referred to as "Souls".
(Gen 2:7 [KJV])
And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
(Gen 6:17 [KJV])
And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein [is] the breath of life, from under heaven; [and] every thing that [is] in the earth shall die.
(Gen 7:21-22 [KJV])
And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
All in whose nostrils [was] the breath of life, of all that [was] in the dry [land] , died.

__________________
Russell
Acts 28:31 KJV) "Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ," with all confidence, ....

Healing those hurt by the church

Ok where did the common human population come from before Adam and Eve?.
Genesis? or senses?

Trees in scripture can be angels or people and sometimes a tree in scripture is just a tree. Now where does the Bible say that a tree taught Adam?

Same thing with fruit. Fruit in scripture can refer to people, doctrines, matereal gains and sometimes fruit is just fruit.


The creation was already plural when God said let us make man however I believe God is having a conversation with Himself in that passage.

Nice attempt to muddy the water. As I recollect, I don`t believe I have discussed the breath of life which refers to the life eneargy that is in every living thing. I don`t think you can call the breath of life and the soul /spirit the same thing. I see nothing in your passage that states animals have souls/spirits and I am not aware of any scripture that states such a thing.

The breath of life is the life that is in your blood. Your soul is the inner man that dwells in the tent of your body.

I believe God made humans on the sixth day as stated in Genesis. I believe Adam was made after the seventh day ended. Adam was formed from the earth but I believe the garden of Eden is in heaven and is the place Jesus called paradise.