The Catholic Religion Exposed

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Dave Sargeant

Rick, I accept that you are not anti- catholic and I agree we ought not to make a pact with demons because the devil is after us. I used to be very anti roman catholic, still believe that many of their teachings are wrong. Things have changed in the past 30 years or so. I have met a good number of RCs who do worship with protestants and in the UK there is a crossing of the great divide not only with RCs but many protestant groups, denominations, as well. Perhaps, and I say this with caution, The Lord of the harvest is bringing us closer together in view of the days ahead. Dave, with true Christian love.

What we have in the world today is a world that is being led towards global tyranny and destruction. What is happening is prophetic so it`s inevitable that the world will continue to walk towards it`s destination until one day it will arrive.

World tyranny has been slowly being advanced on many, many fronts for many, many years. In our present hour I believe it is clear that we are very near completion of the final stages that will produce the world system of the anti-christ.

One of those fronts is religeon. And like all of its other fronts the world tyranny religeous front is very decieving. Religeous unity sounds very nice and for those who advance the peace of the coming anti-christ it is essential to have this religeous unity.

The scheme to create world religeon has it`s modern day orgin in the Roman church who has for it`s allies in this cause the very elitists who will one day betray Apostate Christianity and destroy it.

The Roman church has also been very successful at advancing it`s decieving purpose. Through the Jesuit controlled World Council of Churches it has achieved much of the worldly power it seeks without even being a member of the World Council of Churches.

The Roman Church seeks to extend it`s power and influence in the world by proposing the creation of a religeous UN to be headquarted in Rome and led/controlled by the Roman church organization. Last I heard the UN is very favorable to the idea and it will almost certainly happen.

This religeous UN is an extention of the Apostate Christian movement that endorses all religeons. And that movement is Jesuit controlled and supported by the Roman church organization.

The Roman church seeks to establish an era of peace and one world religeon without the return of Jesus Christ and under it`s authority with it`s figurehead Pope ( The pope isn`t the real authority in the Roman church. It`s an oligarchy.) Once this world religeon is established (and it will be) the great persecution of the body of Christ will begin and the preaching of the true gospel will be outlawed.

Whether the Roman church will participate in the persecution of God`s people or simply be complacent about it, I haven`t a clue.

[Dave Sargeant]

Thanks for that Rick, you know much more about the UN than I do although, like you, I have always had my doubts about it. But should we not attempt to work with other believers while there is opportunity. Yes these may be dark days and may be the start of the ending of the last days and we need to keep our eyes open, even so, to continue the work of spreading the gospel is so important. Dave

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Dave Sargeant

Thanks for that Rick, you know much more about the UN than I do although, like you, I have always had my doubts about it. But should we not attempt to work with other believers while there is opportunity. Yes these may be dark days and may be the start of the ending of the last days and we need to keep our eyes open, even so, to continue the work of spreading the gospel is so important. Dave

On an individual basis we should work with other believers. I would agree there is a time to put differences aside. But we cannot compromise the gospel with Apostate religeon in order to achieve that.

I don`t spend my time going around attacking Catholics. If I meet one I don`t attack their church and if I discuss something that pertains to religeon with them I focus on things they can agree with.

I didn`t start this thread on Catholicism. It was that trouble maker who done that. LOL!

But I engage Catholics who choose to attempt to refute the information being given on this thread about their church. Some Catholics are very knowledgable and Wise One isn`t properly equiped to deal with them.

[Dave Sargeant]

Rick, I agree with you, I believe Jesus is the rock refered to, Peter was given the keys to open the door to the Jews, Pentecost and Gentiles, house of Cornlieus. Paul was the apostle to the gentiles. The office and authourity of the pope is based on tradition that is unprovable. The early catholic church maintained many of the old Roman/pagan, customs. I was not attacking you, I would try not to do that and I do take your point about engaging catholics. May the site bring many to Jesus and strengthen fellow christians. May you be encouraged in your outreach. Dave.

[rodger]

It not the religions but the people who run it.

[Dave Sargeant]

Yes the people who run false religions are deluded. Partof the problem is that sometimes Christians have included some aspects of the enemy in their art, symbols, The cross above the crescent, taking over a pagan featival, Christmas. This to me shows the triumph of Christianity. In the Uk many believers used to meet close to the yew trees where wiches met. The christians won by taking the fight to the then enemy. As a result many church buildings were built near yew trees. I am glad they, the trees, were incorporated into the church and not destroyed for the birds sake. I and my wife, June, are ornithologists. We love the creation of God. Dave.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Dave Sargeant

Yes the people who run false religions are deluded. Partof the problem is that sometimes Christians have included some aspects of the enemy in their art, symbols, The cross above the crescent, taking over a pagan featival, Christmas. This to me shows the triumph of Christianity. In the Uk many believers used to meet close to the yew trees where wiches met. The christians won by taking the fight to the then enemy. As a result many church buildings were built near yew trees. I am glad they, the trees, were incorporated into the church and not destroyed for the birds sake. I and my wife, June, are ornithologists. We love the creation of God. Dave.

I always chopped my tree down, drug it into the house and put it on display where it died a slow death until I would finally take it down, bag it up and toss it in the rubbish.

[Meto]

Originally Posted by tradcat

I honestly cannot believe that you believe that trash about the Catholic Church.

Christ came to the earth, and established His Church. The One, Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church. He chose His apostles, and gave them the command and authority to teach Matthew 28v'19 ''Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.''

Jesus CHOSE His apostles...John15v16 You have not chosen me: but I have chosen you; and have appointed you, that you should go, and should bring forth fruit; and your fruit should remain: that whatsoever you shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Christians teach by their own authority..they were not CHOSEN by Jesus...The Priests of the Catholic Church are chosen by Jesus and given the authority to teach. The only way to know you belong to the true Church is belonging to the one that Jesus established....It has the Pope as its head.

There are many miracles that can not be explained by humans....the eucharistic miracles, the preservation of the bodies of saints etc.

All you have to do is search!

Stop attacking the Catholic Church, by not accepting the Truths that Jesus Himself left to his Church, you are rejecting the one who you claim to follow.

Open your eyes to the truth.

All I can say to you is to quote you scripture( because the false church of rome places their tradition the teachings of men above scripture). The kingdom of God is within you by faith in Christ alone, not by works of penance not by ingesting a sip of wine and a waffer, we're saved by grace alone, not by rules governing grace controlled by a religious elite of priests. In fact Scripture says we are a kingdom of priests (all Gods elect by Grace) a holy nation that offers praise to God in spirit and truth. Just keep cringing to those roman blasphemers and see where you end up.
You've been warned, they've got a great history you know,
get on the internet, educate yourself about the inquisition the Jesuits etc.
Jesus said if my kingdom was of this world my servants would fight for me, thats why he says, don't resist the evil one, turn the other cheek, where not in the business in establishing ourselves forcefully like them.
Jesus didn't resist the Romans he allowed them to take him, he was going to the cross to rescue his little flock.(those justified by faith in his supreme sacrifice, once for all, for all who give up on percieved methods, who come child-like dispairing of any means of righteousness, he gives his mercy and grace) Don't get angry at the other guys look at the history of facts as long as your arm, maybe God is leading you to properly investigate that salvation is by grace alone so that we carn't boast that you did something to earn it, like imagining it all hangs on religious rites ran by the roman Pope and his servants.(that way leads to hell.ie. rejecting pure grace minimizing the atonement of Christ)
Jesus said cursed are you if the world loves you and excepts you, Jesus said few there be that find eternal life. Not the billions of duped catholics, that think their salvation is topped up by bread+wine
Is Mary co- redeamer with Jesus because that's what RC hierarchy say, do we now have four Gods' in heaven, because thats' who Jesus is.
Do you believe in the sinlessness of Mary, do you trust in the assumption
That Mary was translated to heaven like Jesus, a perpetual virgin?, she was the mother of many brothers and sisters including Jesus, have a look yourself use logic then be honest and ask what have these crackpots taught me, hope you seek the truth found in Christ alone.
Wake-up mate don't be decieved like the rest of the world, remember(the bible says) few there be that find eternal life. Being chosen like you claim for them, is not about an exlusive elite chosen by God for this world, its talking about being chosen for the next, God chooses all who are called and chosen for his kingdom, love the gospel of the Lord jesus Christ, and preach that gospel, not the false gospel of rome.

the catholic church believe in faith+woks the sacrements= salvation
Us protestants believe belive faith alone=salvation.

[Dave Sargeant]

Rick, even trees have life and they can clap their hands, branches, conifers, christmas trees, are great for goldcrests, our smallest bird, and many other birds. Dave.

[Dave Sargeant]

Meto, I believe that we all can be duped in some ways, especially about the last days. Much money can be squeezed out of unsuspecting christians as well by false prophets. I am not RC but they do not have an exclusive pick of wrong teachings and actions. We of the free churchs can and do sometimes suffer from a lack of love and that can lead to hatred of those who do not agree with our take on biblical interpretation. Teatime for me. Christian love Dave.