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Does anyone agree with the conclusion of these scripture or wish to contradict these scripture?
Think about it? Is the scripture Truth or does it need to be altered to fit your belief?



(John 1:9 [KJV])
[ That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
(John 1:29 [KJV])
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
(John 4:42 [KJV])
And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard [him] ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
(John 6:33 [KJV])
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
(John 6:51 [KJV])
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
(John 12:32 [KJV])
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me.
(John 12:47 [KJV])
And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
(Rom 5:13-19 [KJV])
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
But not as the offence, so also [is] the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, [which is] by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
And not as [it was] by one that sinned, [so is] the gift: for the judgment [was] by one to condemnation, but the free gift [is] of many offences unto justification.
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
(2Cor 5:18 [KJV])
And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
(2Cor 5:19 [KJV])
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
(1John 2:2 [KJV])
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
(1John 4:14 [KJV])
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be]the Saviour of the world.
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Does anyone agree with the conclusion of these scripture or wish to contradict these scripture?
Think about it? Is the scripture Truth or does it need to be altered to fit your belief?



(John 1:9 [KJV])
[ That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
(John 1:29 [KJV])
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
(John 4:42 [KJV])
And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard [him] ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
(John 6:33 [KJV])
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
(John 6:51 [KJV])
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
(John 12:32 [KJV])
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me.
(John 12:47 [KJV])
And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
(Rom 5:13-19 [KJV])
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
But not as the offence, so also [is] the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, [which is] by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
And not as [it was] by one that sinned, [so is] the gift: for the judgment [was] by one to condemnation, but the free gift [is] of many offences unto justification.
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
(2Cor 5:18 [KJV])
And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
(2Cor 5:19 [KJV])
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
(1John 2:2 [KJV])
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
(1John 4:14 [KJV])
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be]the Saviour of the world.
They all G O O D!
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1Co 15:22 for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, (YLT)
1Ti 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth; (YLT)
Rom 5:19 For as through the disobedience of the one individual the mass of mankind were constituted sinners, so also through the obedience of the One the mass of mankind will be constituted righteous. (WNT)
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Luk 15:4 `What man of you having a hundred sheep, and having lost one out of them, doth not leave behind the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go on after the lost one, till he may find it?
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They all G O O D!
I might add

1Co 15:22 for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, (YLT)
1Ti 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth; (YLT)
Rom 5:19 For as through the disobedience of the one individual the mass of mankind were constituted sinners, so also through the obedience of the One the mass of mankind will be constituted righteous. (WNT)
Excellent! Verrry Good!
Not many know the correct answer and you have hit it right on the head.
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Jesus has provided salvation for everyone but many won't be saved because they won't accept the salvation he offers. John 1:11,12 says that Jesus "came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." Those who reject Jesus also reject salvation . He said that the way to life is narrow and only a few find it.
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Jesus has provided salvation for everyone but many won't be saved because they won't accept the salvation he offers. John 1:11,12 says that Jesus "came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." Those who reject Jesus also reject salvation . He said that the way to life is narrow and only a few find it.
So we are taught but the scripture does not support such a view.
What about the people who never hear the message to accept it.
It makes more sense as the scripture presents it.

(John 1:29 [WMTH 2005])
The next day John saw Jesus coming towards him and exclaimed, ğLook, that is the Lamb of God who is to take away the sin of the world!
Since John the Baptist is not lying, because he is a prophet of God, we need to believe what he said. Jesus later on supports this view.
(John 12:32 [KJV])
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me.
Paul later on also substantiates this view.
(1Cor 15:21-22 [WMTH 2005])
For seeing that death came through man, through man comes also the resurrection of the dead. For just as through Adam all die, so also through Christ all will be made alive again.

Since Jesus the Lamb of God took away the Sin of the world, it makes sense to reject the message, not accept the message.
We as Christians have had a distorted view of Salvation, Forgiveness, and being Saved. Modern day theology is misleading.
The real message of Jesus, is that the world has been reconciled to God.
If they want to remain in that reconciliation is what the preaching of the cross is all about. We encourage and call people back from walking away from their reconciliation. This is the story of the Prodigal Son to the Tee.
The
Prodigal Son is the Gospel. The modern cultic christianity cannot preach this story without changing it.
Try preaching this as the Gospel like Jesus did. You can't because it defies your doctrines. Isn't that funny! The Gospel which Jesus The Messiah of God taught, cannot be followed today. Jesus the Messiah didn't know what the Gospel was according to modern theology. Which means He is not their Savior because they reject the message. There it is, a great example of rejection of the message and walking away from the reconciliation.
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