The 'how-to' plan to criminalize Christianity

[Rick]

The 'how-to' plan to criminalize Christianity

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[Dave Sargeant]

This is frightenining. But we should not be frightened, united, determined to suffer for Jesus if need be, and campaigning for the truth, for freedom of speach. Dave.

[Meto]

Originally Posted by Rick

The 'how-to' plan to criminalize Christianity

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This is so true, the war against terror was always going to devlop into the secular war against Christians, and position the nations for endtime conflict.
It seems ironic that the exposure of clerical sexual crimes ( especially Catholic) in the media, facilitate the villanization of Protestants. And more so because we hold to the commands of scripture, making us appear, even more as unbending evil hypocrites.

Where as the Pope covers their trail of corrupt involvment (sexual crime) with all his grand humanistic speaches on tolerance, love and exceptence of all.
The Catholic media always revere his grandose and generalised utterings.

To the outsider they look to be the practical and more reasonable party, compared to the orthodox Christian, whom are also shouldering the responsibilities for catholic church sexual crimes, and the undeserved criticism of the secularist.

They have effectively smeared us with their filth, whilst then attempting to appear the more righteous in their compromization of Christianity with other religions, and their diplomacy with homosexual issues.

This develops the concept that the sexual deviate and hateful discriminator is also the ridge religious *****, who won't accept any and every form of religion and sexuality to live in harmony with others.

This is the constant theme that is now undermining our acceptance in the current social environment. Scripture says that, the saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time. I'd say we're on course to see that happen in the near future.

Rod.

[Dave Sargeant]

Rod, I am not sure about the end times, or last of the last days. Over 2000 years there have been many times as bad as today and many false prophecies or perhaps I ought to have said misguided prophets. In some countries the believers have been persecuted for years sometimes this persecution has led to revival. But yes we may be heading for or even in the end time. There was a time when I said publicly that I would not draw my pension because the Lord would have come by then. I was wrong. Could there be another 1000 years before the return? Dave.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Dave Sargeant

Rod, I am not sure about the end times, or last of the last days. Over 2000 years there have been many times as bad as today and many false prophecies or perhaps I ought to have said misguided prophets. In some countries the believers have been persecuted for years sometimes this persecution has led to revival. But yes we may be heading for or even in the end time. There was a time when I said publicly that I would not draw my pension because the Lord would have come by then. I was wrong. Could there be another 1000 years before the return? Dave.

1000 years? Not a chance Dave. The key issue though is that Jewish Temple and the peace treaty. The end of the age is not possible and hasn`t been because those two conditions are required to fulfill the prophecies.

The Jews have to build that temple and make the covenant with many that Daniel prophesied.

[Dave Sargeant]

Rick, are not we ( the church ) the temple. God, The Lord does not dwell in houses, a temple,made by human hands. Acts 7;48. Though you will probably say that the new temple will be for evil and not good. Dave. You know I once thought that Dyan was the AC. he fulfilled the one eye and arm prophecy, not sure where that is found now. Through this site I am able to debate in a reasoned way, something missing for years due to the work I have been led into. Difficult reading through pages of script still.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Dave Sargeant

Rick, are not we ( the church ) the temple. God, The Lord does not dwell in houses, a temple,made by human hands. Acts 7;48. Though you will probably say that the new temple will be for evil and not good. Dave. You know I once thought that Dyan was the AC. he fulfilled the one eye and arm prophecy, not sure where that is found now. Through this site I am able to debate in a reasoned way, something missing for years due to the work I have been led into. Difficult reading through pages of script still.

There are many things in scripture that pertain to Israel as a nation that have a spiritual counterpart in the body of Christ.

The verses that talk about the body as a temple of the Spirit are distinct from verses that pertain to the literal temple in Jerusalem.

The Old Testament foreshawdows Christ and as the body of Christ we are part of what is foreshawdowed.

Unfulfilled prophecies that pertain to Israel as a nation will be and must be fulfilled. And God has ordered things in such a way that fulfillment of His covenant promise to them will not take away of the inheritence He has given to Gentile believers.

[Dave Sargeant]

Must the prophecies still unfulfilled be fulfilled in our day though or do we just hope they will be. Or why is today worse than any other time? Dave.

[Meto]

Originally Posted by Dave Sargeant

Must the prophecies still unfulfilled be fulfilled in our day though or do we just hope they will be. Or why is today worse than any other time? Dave.

Dear Dave + Rick,

The reemergence of Israel after 2000yrs wasn't for nothing Dave.
Jesus' statement matt 24:34, the generation that sees these things he mentioned, and the issues over Jerusalem and Temple mount, will not pass away before all things are fulfilled.
The 40yrs of generation then the last 7 of Daniel.
That's why we are seeing the speedy implementation of the Peace Treaty and Global Economy, because it all must fit Gods' time frame.
We are at the tail end of the time allowance, so things will gather pace quickly from now on.
I'd appreciate if you would mention me in prayer to God as I'm struggling a little at the moment.

Thanks.
Rod.

[Dave Sargeant]

Rod, I will certainly pray for you. Things are certainly interesting in the world and you may be right. Dave